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| Asya | Date: Thursday, 10.09.2009, 22:41 | Message # 1 |
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| Frankly speaking, I didn’t like this discussion at all. I found it rather dull and boring. And it was TOO long!!!!!! But still… The discussants speak about new writing for the theatre. They are discussing each other and many other people whom nobody of us knows. I don’t see any logical ending of the discussion. They just suddenly finish it, coming to no conclusion. I think it would be more interesting if they were asking each other questions like
• If there is some play written by a “new”, unknown writer, will you have a desire to watch it? Are you "afraid" of such writers?
• Why do people start writing for theatres?
Message edited by Assa - Friday, 11.09.2009, 00:58 |
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| Megastarosta | Date: Thursday, 10.09.2009, 23:45 | Message # 2 |
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| oh God, the discussion was too long for me today 
I agree with Assa, that these three people didnt make conclusions at the end. But this discussin made me think about todays question:New writers for theatre. 
Do you think that new writes are more talented than writers in past?As for me, i think we cant compare it at all, because there were another interests.
Well, dont understand me wrong, i dont want to say that our nowadays-writers are absolutely untelanted and ungifted. Everybody knows and sees different modern perfomances and i think you liked it.
But according to this text i want you to ask:
-Do you think that new writes are more talented than writers in past?
-Did you see any of modern perfomances (describe your reaction to this)
-Did you see the difference between theatre in the pst and theatre today? 
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| Tanya | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 00:08 | Message # 3 |
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| After listening a theatre voice debate I allocated for myself the main idea. Many ordinary people think that theatre is only having a good time. But theatre is also a big world of rich (I mean inner world), intellectual, energetic and talented people. And nobody think about one detale. The successful perfomance begin not with a preparation. It begins with a talented writer and his a well thought scenario. Nowadays we can see more and more new talented people who don̕t want to do anything besides to write and write for the theatre. Fron my poin of view, the one thing that impressed is understanding how brilliant was older generations of playwrights. And I really hope that new, young playwrites will please us with their great successful theatrical works!!!
Do you know one of the modern, young writers? (may be it is your friend).
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| Teacher | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 01:16 | Message # 4 |
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| In my opinion the discussion from the Transcript 1 has a theme, but do not have any structure. The deliberators are just speaking about something in a frame on one theme. And this theme is modern theater. Speaking about this I think, that there are classical and modern theater. Both of them have there own public, traditions etc. But we can't compare two these types of theater. As far as I can judge, modern theater is not better, it's just more intrepid and vulgar. Some people like this, so they go to these plays. If we discuss modern and classical playwriters, it is like speaking about the comparison, for example, Pushkin and Dontsova (do you feel the difference?). I don't want to say, that all nowadays playwriters are foolish medoicre people, but most of them are just copies of each other. As for me, modern theatre is more fleshly, the while classical theatre is more mental and lofty. Choosing between these two types of theater and playwriters, I prefer Classic. And what do you prefer? Quote (Assa) • Why do people start writing for theatres?
Maybe they want to become famous, maybe they think, they are geniuses, maybe they suppose, that their шау is boring without playwriting... Different people - different causes... Quote (Megastarosta) -Do you think that new writes are more talented than writers in past?
No! Modern playwriters can be as talented as the writers of the Past, but they can't be more talented.
In Vino Veritas...
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| Rina | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 01:46 | Message # 5 |
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| Well, this discussion seemed for me like an "accidental overheared chat" between the men who know each other quite well and whom I don't know at all... 
They were talking about theatre writers but the names they were mentioning and the events they were describing were far from me and It did't make their discussion informative... (for me. It's quite a subjective reaction)))))) I tend to agree with Assa. ("I don’t see any logical ending of the discussion") And I quess that Alex's words "the Transcript 1 has a theme, but do not have any structure" are also resonable.
the only one Great Thought I've heard was the quotation: "In theory few men are as free as a playwright, he can bring the whole world onto his stage, but in fact he is strangely timid". My crazy thought, but still, can't these words be said about the discussants? "They were free" in sharing their opinions, they could "bring the whole world" of playrights ))))) BUT... they prefered boring monoloques and NOT-well-known names... I'm disappointed 
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| alex_makh | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 03:13 | Message # 6 |
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| Frankly speakin I thought that I would be ashamed for my dissapointment 'bout the script, but as I see - everybody thinks it was too long-winded, too irksome and as Alex said unsructured. Quote (Megastarosta) -Do you think that new writes are more talented than writers in past? hmmmm... I suppose... no! I'm shure that talented people were, are, and woulв be. But the values are different, thats why i think we must't base our comparisons of writers on talent, but must compare their moral values.
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| Asya | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 09:43 | Message # 7 |
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| Quote (Seagull) No! Modern playwriters can be as talented as the writers of the Past, but they can't be more talented.
Why not???? Why not more talented???? Seagull, do you really believe that all talented people were born earlier and all great pieces of Art were created? If it were so, there would be no future, I think. By the way, do you know that nearly the half of great reseachers were made in the XXth century???
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| Teacher | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 09:49 | Message # 8 |
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| Assa, I don't speak about all shperes of life. In case of theatre even if modern playwriters better than classical, they are more vulgar, and this is not a plus for them.
In Vino Veritas...
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| Luck | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 10:12 | Message # 9 |
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| Don't tell nonsense! Of course there are people who are more talented than the writers of the Past! And you shouldn't compare Pushkin and Dontsova:) Firstly, everything changes, and of course modern writers write about the things that are popular nowadays (certainly that doesn't mean that I appreciate Dontsova as the most successful writer:) ), and secondly, she doesn't write the scripts of the theatre performances:)))
I can say for sure, that there are lots of talented people, but speaking about the theatre I think I prefer classics:)
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| Asya | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 10:38 | Message # 10 |
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| Quote (Luck) Don't tell nonsense! Of course there are people who are more talented than the writers of the Past!
Completely agree with Luck.
Seagull, and do you agree with people who say that nowadays young people are worse than, let it be, 30 years ago?
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| MissJane | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 10:55 | Message # 11 |
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| I found only one point in the discussion that seems to be quite suitable for its purpose: it is why such a great many of new playwrights appear nowadays. And it sounds reasonable enough to claim that this thing is closely linked to the fact that we have become more free-thinking and socially active. I'd rather agree with Mark Ravenhill and his idea that our system of values and our life vision have shifted a great deal, and it has become possible for many people to try themselves, for instance, in writing. We have witnessed a large-scaled outburst of new playwrights which is quite remarkable. But I don't support the point of view of Seagull who is sure that nothing new and good has a chance to be invented in theatre playwriting. The fact is that the amount of new playwrights is extremely big, but still there are people who are successful and well-known.
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| Ayayulia | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 11:11 | Message # 12 |
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| I don't find the discussion interesting. The participators spoke about everything in general, I can’t say that one’s opinion differed from another. The theme of discussion must be something like “whether modern plays have the right to exist or not” or “Which plays, I mean modern or classic, correspond to our reality and that’s why are more interesting” but they didn’t touch upon really urgent issues. But they had enough time to discuss some people, who are certainly not familiar for me, and their life stories, which were boring and sometimes were not even near the point of debates.
As for me I think that today “there are plays of real quality being written”, as we see in the text. They have a real force and they were produced by very driven producers. And it is pleasure to watch such a plays. But there is also a great amount of plays that were written only for the purpose to strike or amaze. And the tools that the directors use for that are sometimes too eccentric, extravagant or even vulgar. That’s why I prefer traditional theatre rather than modern, but contemporary writers can also create such plays.
What theatre do you prefer?
Do you think that plays of Schechov, Ostrovskiy, Brescht and so one don’t comply with our today’s realities?
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| Teacher | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 11:15 | Message # 13 |
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| Quote (Assa) Seagull, and do you agree with people who say that nowadays young people are worse than, let it be, 30 years ago?
I suppose, that nowadays world is worse than it was. About young people... I think that from one generation to another youngsters become worse...
In Vino Veritas...
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| Megastarosta | Date: Friday, 11.09.2009, 21:34 | Message # 14 |
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