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| 8davids8 | Date: Saturday, 19.11.2011, 18:40 | Message # 1 |
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| Death penalty is a measure of justice that must be prohibited, some say. Many do. Though there are still those who support it, because as we know, about 90 countries still promote death penalty as capital punishment. But the question is quite controversial. Do you beleive that we should support it as well? What comes to one's mind, when he approves of such a violent measure of punishment. What religious, social, cultural or moral aspects does it concern?
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| lovefootball) | Date: Saturday, 19.11.2011, 19:37 | Message # 2 |
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| I do support it, really. Taking into account that I try to avoid radicalism in ordinary life, I'm sure that it's essential for our country to introduce it as a punitive measure. Why? Well...the reason is very simple: one thing is just talking about humanism and rehabilitation and the other is looking at the issue from the point of view of a participant (Lord forbid!!!). I don't like operating with too abstract notions, that's why it's natural to understand the desire to kill the one who...I won't continue because the very thought of possible grave crimes makes me shiver from hatred.
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| Luck | Date: Saturday, 19.11.2011, 23:43 | Message # 3 |
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| Death penalty is an extreme penalty a person can get. And the most debatable question is whether a person deserves it or not because having taken this decision the court deprives a person of his/her life.
And so the reason for taking such a decision should be really serious like murders, any kind of abuse, terrorism and other things that lead to people’s death or ruining one’s life.
On the other hand I am completely for the death penalty because a murderer has absolutely no right to deprive one of his life. He is not a super human and his accidental desire to rape or kill someone cannot be justified at all.
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| Asya | Date: Sunday, 20.11.2011, 23:37 | Message # 4 |
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| I'm in two minds actually. on the one hand, I'm against such radical measures. Everybody is guaranteed certain rights by the constitution. The basic and the most important right is the right for life. That's why we can't deprive anyone of life. Moreover, according to the Bible, this is one of the worst sins: killing (murdering) a person. People shouldn't behave like God deciding whether one can or cannot live.
On the other hand, I do understand people insisting on the death penalty. There are certain crimes that deserve no forgiveness. Like sexual abuse of children or mass murdering.
So, as I've said, this problem is a double-edged sword for me. I know only one thing for sure: such an extreme and violent punitive measure should never become a daily practice.
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| Ayayulia | Date: Monday, 21.11.2011, 11:23 | Message # 5 |
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| I am against death penalty because
1. it is a vestige of the past, it can’t be a sign of a developed society
2. if we decided that a person is guilty committed the murder, we are also guilty for executing him
3. life sentence with maximum security is more effective than death penalty. For a murder the life has no value, but keeping him alive forcing to work for the society is more efficient and humane
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| MissJane | Date: Thursday, 24.11.2011, 15:52 | Message # 6 |
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| I oppose the death penalty because the cruelty of the capital punishment does not exactly correspond to the guilty conduct of a criminal. On one hand, a quick deprivation of life is not enough for the murderer because we give no opportunity for the criminal to torture. On the other hand, the only torment they endure is pending their execution. Being on the death row enables the person to realize the death is soon and to dread it. So the capital punishment replays the tortures of the victim. In this case we retain the principle of ‘eye to eye’ which is not the principle of Christianity.
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| lovefootball) | Date: Thursday, 01.12.2011, 20:56 | Message # 7 |
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| OK,if we abstract from pro and con, what can you say about appropriate ways of execution? Which is the most humane, painless and quick? We discussed this with my groupmates some time ago and we couldn't come to an agreement.We touched upon the number of witnesss,doctors, experts, possible bribery...The talk wasn't a pleasant one I should say. Some of us were for injections, others cast doubts upon the reliability of this measure. So, what do you think? Of course distant times when it was a public spectacle are out of question.
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| Bay_cat | Date: Friday, 02.12.2011, 00:53 | Message # 8 |
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| Well, it's really a hard question for all of us. It is similar to "to be or not to be".
As for me, I think this question has two sides. On the one hand, a man who killed a great amount of people, dishonoured a woman, or dared kill a child, deserves only the death penalty. He can't compensate relatives for their bereavement. It's hard to go to bed and know that a murderer is still alive and your close friend, or your close relative is in the grave...I do support it in our country. Judging by modern laws our system of punishment is very loyal to such people, so there are too many young people who may follow a bad example. A man, who takes smb's life has no rights to live himself. But, paying enough money he becomes able to gain freedom or, at least, to shorten his stay in prison. It goes without saying that this is inadmissible! Such people never repent their sins, and even if they do, it's too late to repair smth.
But..there's another side. At first, mankind is not given God's power, we cannot sway the people's destinies. If a person regrets his doings, repents his crimes there's always a chance to save his soul. Certainly, it's hard to believe in it listening to news about another man who killed many innocent girls.
Moreover, there's a great possibility to accuse an unguilty man. Unfortunately it's typical of our country to imprison without a proper court examination. How will you feel yourself if the death penalty as a measure of punishment will be fixed to an unguilty man?
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| MissJane | Date: Saturday, 03.12.2011, 12:25 | Message # 9 |
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| lovefootball), I strongly oppose death penalty that is why the question of the appropriate lethal procedure does not even come up when I think of the problem. None of them seems to me right and humane as all of the ways of execution set forth the objective of mortifying the flesh. No matter what method is used, the result is the same but there can be failures in procedure like it was powerfully described in "The Green Mile" (which was actually based on the real events). The tortures are not implied when executing but they happen and this is the crucial point. So my position is definite and clear: I do not approve of the countries that still sentence people to capital punishment.
Quote (Bay_cat) Judging by modern laws our system of punishment is very loyal to such people
The lenience of our judicial system to murderers and serial killers might be explained by the urge towards liberalism and human rights defence. But the improvements should be carried out in the sphere of increasing the length of the prison sentence and, what is more important, in the sphere of fair and quick administration. The introduction of capital punishment won't cut down the number of criminals.
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| lovefootball) | Date: Saturday, 03.12.2011, 19:47 | Message # 10 |
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| Quick administration - that sounds funny))) Actually it's a byword among Russian people, I mean we're constantly grumbling about officialism and delays almost in all spheres of our life. It's not even mere grumbling cause it can be really justified! Anyone who has ever faced "paper" troubles will agree that we're exposed to hellfire to get this or that document. And note that it concerns ordinary matters. I'm afraid to imagine what's going on in the upper instances.
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| Zuzu | Date: Wednesday, 07.12.2011, 13:16 | Message # 11 |
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| I am against death penalty. I wll try to explain to you why. Have you seen the film "Prison break"? There a protagonist is condemned to death. But as a matter of fact, he was crossed up. Someone decided to vent his anger on this character. Someone revenges himself upon this man. And it's impossible to justify him because this someone is the president himself. It's just a film, I know, but there are such cases in reality.
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| Bay_cat | Date: Thursday, 05.01.2012, 22:05 | Message # 12 |
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| quick administration, justice...these words are unfamiliar to our ruling top. If someone, whom the court found guilty pays enough money inquest will last as long as possible, until his length in prison wouldn't be cut down. Besides, when I remember our bureaucracy I can imagine how long people are able to delay smth if they wish. People make legends of our "paper troubles". So, there is no question of that, we will wait for adequate laws very very very long.
And just today I've read an article about a girl at the age of 11. She was very talented, she wrote poems, she drew well, she was very clever. But some bastard, I'm sorry for such a word, being drunken raped her and killed her. This guy wasn't too old, he was also a teenager, at the age of 18, as far as I remember. As for me I can't understand in what way we should be loyal to such people. There's no punishment in the world that can return this girl...
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| Goldilocks | Date: Sunday, 27.05.2012, 17:41 | Message # 13 |
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| On one hand, death penalty should never be permitted. Our court system is very much imperfect. We sentence innocent people and set the real criminals free. But on the other hand, such people as serial killers or terrorists don't really deserve to live.
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