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| Valeriya | Date: Wednesday, 06.04.2011, 13:09 | Message # 1 |
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| Now in Russia health system incorporates a variety of medical institutions. The medical service in Russia is of two kinds. Some state establishments give their employees medical insurance cards. They guarantee the people free of charge medical assistance. Some medical establishments charge fees for treatment. They may be rat-her high, but our medical service now uses all modem equipment and medicines and provides qualified medical help to all people.
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| Nekavaen | Date: Friday, 08.04.2011, 10:06 | Message # 2 |
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| I don’t believe we can get good free medical treatment in our country. I seldom fall ill, but when it happens, I use folk medicine or go to a private clinic. I would rather pay money for excellent and quick service and respectful attention, than spend hours in queues and catch another illnesses, be scolded by old women who are healthier than me but visit hospitals because they have nothing else to do, see angry and totally exhausted doctors’ faces… I think depression is the most dangerous thing. It is worse than any illness for me. I would try to avoid it but Russian state hospitals are places where you feel nobody cares about you at once. It’s irritating and depressing!
It is not human to be without shame and without desire. (Ursula K. Le Guin)
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| Luck | Date: Wednesday, 27.04.2011, 23:43 | Message # 3 |
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| I do not think that in all our hospitals doctors do not care about peeople at all. There are LOTS of doctors who work absolutely for nothing but DO help people, and they are ready to do as much as they can in order to cure us. It is banal to say this but it is really so: the government completely ruined our health care system, and it is definitely only becoming worse and worse, and how we'll manage to improve it...I have no idea. I just want to say "thanks" to those doctors who are still here for us despite all the circumstances.
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| Nekavaen | Date: Thursday, 28.04.2011, 12:05 | Message # 4 |
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| Nowadays many Russian doctors manage to combine work at state hospitals and private clinics. I think it’s great because they both help people who can’t pay for treatment (or just don’t want to) and get a chance to earn enough money.
It is not human to be without shame and without desire. (Ursula K. Le Guin)
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| Luck | Date: Thursday, 28.04.2011, 23:05 | Message # 5 |
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| well yes, I agree with you now, because this public/private work seems to be a kind of a way out for SOME doctors. But don't you think that it's pretty hard to get that job in a private clinic? How many doctors can manage to combine their work? How many doctors have an opportunity to get a job there?
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| Nadya | Date: Friday, 29.04.2011, 17:58 | Message # 6 |
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| In my opinion, it's not easy to get a job in private clinics even if you are a highly-qualified doctor. That is why a lot of doctors have to work hard in public hospitals every day. Our government must pay doctors enough money for their hard working. And doctors won't have to combine work at state hospitals and private clinics.
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| Asya | Date: Thursday, 05.05.2011, 09:43 | Message # 7 |
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| Quote (Luck) I do not think that in all our hospitals doctors do not care about peeople at all. There are LOTS of doctors who work absolutely for nothing but DO help people,
Completely agree with you. I suppose there's no sense saying that all the young generation do nothing but drink beer in parks or all teachers are very rich because they take bribes.  It just has no sense!
I believe that in every sphere of employment there are workers who do their work on the most lavish scale and the ones that come to work because they simply have to, they hate their work and prefer loitering to normal work.
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| Ayayulia | Date: Sunday, 15.05.2011, 23:11 | Message # 8 |
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| As for me I choose public hospital instead of private ones. Of course, in an ordinary hospital you are doomed to stand in queue, there are no armchairs in the corridor, you should buy shoe covers, and the equipment isn’t always “up-to-date”. But I am absolutely sure that doctor will add some non-existent illnesses in order to “extract” more money from my pocket.
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| Nekavaen | Date: Tuesday, 17.05.2011, 11:39 | Message # 9 |
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| Yes, such a problem really exists. I personally have faced it many times when visiting private stomatological clinics. You come and say “Please, have a look at this tooth. It aches. Do something”. And the specialist starts working with this tooth and with many others that are absolutely normal. Of course, we can refuse to get additional services, but doctors may start frightening us: “Yes, now this tooth doesn’t bother you. But dangerous inflammatory process has already begun. It’s hidden and that’s why you can’t feel anything. If we don’t cure it now, we’ll have to pull the tooth out later”. In the end you get a bill with shocking numbers…
It is not human to be without shame and without desire. (Ursula K. Le Guin)
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| Luck | Date: Wednesday, 25.05.2011, 21:58 | Message # 10 |
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| I do not think that it is so common to come to a private clinic and after that get a shocking bill.. Well usually when I go there, I know what tooth aches and what exactly I want to do with it. And I myself have never met a doctor who would say "oh, and there are also problems with this and that tooth, so you'll have to pay a lot but your teeth will look brilliant". But anyway you should also switch your brains on but not just listen to everything that someone tells you)) Well,moreover I suppose you'll agree with me that in some cases it's better to get a shocking bill rather than an aching tooth))
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| Rina | Date: Friday, 27.05.2011, 01:25 | Message # 11 |
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| Quote (Luck) it's better to get a shocking bill rather than an aching tooth))
Absolutely agree. Just imagine that the doctor isn't going to fleece you and you realy need this "additional service" but you disagree to accept this offer. It's better to cope with problems untill they are too serious.
But if you are suspicious and distrustful, you can go to a public clinic and consult about your teeth threre))) and then return to a private clinic with a well-stuffed wallet and no doubts)))))
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| Nadya | Date: Friday, 27.05.2011, 15:42 | Message # 12 |
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| Quote Of course, we can refuse to get additional services, but doctors may start frightening us...
I can't agree with you. Nobody can treat for any illness by force. Tanya is right: "you should also switch your brains on but not just listen to everything that someone tells you".
As for private clinics and public hospitals, I think that public hospitals are better. "A private clinic" doesn't always mean "a good clinic". Of course, there can be good and well-qualified doctors there, but most of them are accepted by backstair influence. And the opportunity to meet really good doctors in public hospital is higher. More than that, authorities practically doesn't control private clinics in contrast to public hospitals.
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| Ayayulia | Date: Sunday, 29.05.2011, 14:38 | Message # 13 |
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| When you are in the market and sellers from every quarter call to you and ask you (really ask and not offer) to buy his/her apples or meat you usually just answer “No, thank you”. What’s the problem to give the similar answer in a private clinic? The main problem is when the doctor says “You have this disease and should take these pills and make these additional tests” and you really become think about it and find the corresponding syndromes, but in fact you are healthy. It is half a problem if this treatment won’t do you any harm.
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| MissJane | Date: Friday, 10.06.2011, 12:49 | Message # 14 |
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| I always go to a private clinic when it concerns my teeth and have never been disappointed with the service. My dentist never fleeces me of all my money and is always ready to prompt at the best way of treating. Sometimes she says: "There's no use in disturbing the tooth that doesn't ache. You'd better take preventive measures."
As for the private and public health systems, I think many public hospitals and clinics have already started to employ fee-based services and soon we'll face the moment when the private and public sectors of health care system will merge into one institution.
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| Luck | Date: Friday, 10.06.2011, 13:08 | Message # 15 |
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| My friend"s grandmother visited a doctor about a month ago and then she came home and started complaining that she would now have to spend about 2,500 rubles on necessary creams and pills. And then she got advice to visit another doctor and see what she or he would prescribe her. She did it and finally she had to spend only 400 rubles on the same creams and pills. And here is a question: what to do?))
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