INDIAN CAMP
I guess the beginning of the
story is quite usual and perhaps even banal. The son wants to watch his father
brings new life into the world. He is a young boy who helps his father. But on
the other hand, despite the fact that there is only pain and violence in life,
from the author point of view, I guess we are clearly shown, that the father
takes care of his son and that he wants to preserve him from death. We see that
the husband of the woman, who gave birth to the child couldn’t stand the pain
and screams of the woman. And I guess the most important scene of the play is
when the son asks whether everybody kills himself or not. And the father
answers that not everybody as if he wants to prove his son that he’ll never
die.
The atmosphere in the story is
quite unpleasant, dull, dark and scaring. But to my mind the author gives a
small hope to everybody in Indian Camp. The life is cruel and everybody should
face all these problems. But the story begins quite nice. The doctor goes to
help the woman to give birth to a child. So this symbolizes something great and
the most important in life. But then again – the screams and pain of the woman,
the death of the husband. So this is reality.
During the whole story the
emotions of the boy changed greatly. At the beginning of the story the boy is
ready to help his father. He is very happy because he will be able to take part
in his father’s work. But then he sees the woman who suffers very much, he
understands that even giving birth that is usually treated as the
happiest event, can be dirty and painful. But then he also sees the corpse of
the husband. And it’s clear that the boy feels disgusted, depressed and sick,
because he can’t stand the smell, the action; he can’t look at the blood and
the corpse. He just can’t be in this room; as if he went out he would be in
another world without horror and pain. But maybe in this room the author just
concentrated only the worst things that can happen to people. And the author
tries to prove that sadness never leaves people. Maybe he exaggerates a bit,
but I should agree just with one thing for sure that nobody can escape this
cruel reality.
(by Luck)
I won't say much about this story. I don't understand why it is worth
discussing. Didn't like it at all.
So... I'd like to speak about the plot a little bit. As everybody knows, the
doctor comes to help some Indian woman give birth to a child. But although this
story is about a childbirth, it focuses on the experience of the doctor rather
than the woman. Nearly nothing is said about the feelings and emotions of the
woman. And, on the contrary, the story focuses on the doctor's emotions and
actions. They are described in detail. What can it possibly mean?! Maybe, the
author wanted to show strength, masculinity. But if it is so, why did the
father of the newborn child commit a suicide? Is it the doctor's antipode? Or is
this character used to show us that men sometimes behave in a
"feminine" way? I don't understand it. But... If I were to determine
the role of this character in the story, I would say that he balances it. The
child has been born, his father has died. Life has both sides.
That's all. I know it's too short but I think I've said enough to express my
point of view.
(by Asya)
I absolutely agree that there is no peace in the stories, as it is said in our
lesson plan. When I read the first part of the story ‘Indian camp’ I hoped that
everything would be all right, the child would be born, the new life would
appear. I was absolutely shocked with the end of the story. But Hemingway is
not an optimistic writer; I don’t know why I expected a ‘happy end’. So, the
author shows us the reality of life, but this reality is quite severe – there
is no absolute happiness. The whole atmosphere is depressing: darkness, mist,
cold. Sometimes Hemingway gives us positive feelings, e.g. Nick’s father felt
exalted after the delivery ‘as a football player after a game’. The child was
born, the woman stopped suffering from the awful pain, but the next moment we
see a suicide of her husband, who couldn’t bear her misery. And all
post-operative exhilaration of the father is gone together with our optimistic
mood. I think that the main idea of the story is the whole cycle of life and
death. The pains of life become clear to Nick for the first time.
(by Ayayulia)
A
small boy who is out of touch with harsh reality becomes a witness
of the two greatest secrets of the world – Life and Death... His
understanding, his reaction – these are the very things the author
tries to draw our attention to. The moment when a person first gets
acquainted with pain, suffering
and
death is a crucial point in one's nature that has certain dramatic
impact on one's personality and character. The consciousness of
people's mortality can determine the following being changing the
whole system of values and moral norms. And how does this little boy
Nick come across death for the
first time in his life? He sees that the man commits suicide just
after his child's birth. Life and Death go hand in hand, they exist
in their dialectal unity. Little Nick faces them both and their
union creates
his own attitude towards these phenomena. He comprehends that Life
begins with throes, with screams and cries, and Death comes quietly,
unexpectedly appearing in the next room... And it becomes difficult
for Nick to understand what makes people suffer most. But this discovery hasn't changed Nick's life-vision. The initial meeting with Life and Death
turned out to be untroubled. May be, that's
why his questions are so commonplace – he just asks and doesn't
take the answers to heart. As his father says, "it's pretty
easy”. Besides, little Nick is quite sure that he "would never
die”. Well, one day this little boy will understand the real value
of Life and tragedy of Death. But not today...
«Indian Camp» is one of the stories written by E. Hemingway. The story
tells us about young Nick. He is an ordinary boy. His father is a doctor. I can’t
say that this story is happy.
Nick comes across two great sacraments: the beginning of
a new life and death. Unfortunately, both these processes are not normal. An Indian
woman is having a baby only with the help of the cesarean operation. Nick’s
father helps poor mother to give the birth to her child. At same time the Indian
woman’s husband commits a suicide. Nick becomes a happenstance witness of all
these actions.
Firstly, the boy is very interested in what his father is going to do. But
then Nick can’t stand what he sees. The whole situation is disgusting. The room
where all the characters are is dark and dirty. A crying newborn, a dead
Indian, his exhausted wife, blood everywhere make the atmosphere tensive and
oppressive.
When Nick is coming home with his father he asks some simple questions
about life and death. Nick’s father answers in a very simple way. So we
understand that there is no drama in the story. It’s just a real life situation
and a little boy who wants to learn real life. Nick has just been the looker of
the beginning of a new life and death, and now he wants to know more about it.
After the conversation with the father Nick thinks he will never die. I think
it’s natural for a young dreaming boy. In our childhood we all think that we’ll
never come across the problems other people have. But still young Nick continues
to learn this new cruel, but real world. (by Seagull)
Indian Camp is one of those stories that involve a rich metaphorical
meaning. This short story tells us about the childhood of Nick Adams and particularly
about the event that stuck into his memory all right. Nick with his father goes
to the Indian camp to help the young girl to give birth to a child. In the end
Nick sees the girl’s husband commit suicide because of his wife’s tortures. This experience seems to have made a great
impression on Nick (and naturally on Hemingway himself). The thing that
attracts reader’s attention is the contrast between the surrounding world and
the hut where Nick’s father delivered the child. We almost hear every sound of
the inner world – the slapping of oars, the birds singing, the Indians rustling
around. Nick is calmed down by the
nature itself, by its tranquility and serenity. The inner world is the world of
life. The hut is the world of death and torments. Naturally the hut is just a
part of this world and a very small part. It’ll be a snap for Nick to get rid
of that unpleasant feeling after seeing the Indian’s corpse. The nature heels
Nick and protects from all the stresses. So, the mainstream idea of the story
consists in the fact that death and pain are nothing in comparison with life.
Life is a much bigger and more universal thing. Should I be a director of the screen version
of the story, I would emphasize this contrast. The scenes in the hut would be
shot in a steady-cam manner with monochrome in order to underline the main
difference. All the other should be understood by the audience. All in all the Hemingway’s manner to carefully conceal the idea from the
readers takes place here as well. Still everyone may understand the story in
his own way.
8davids8
It is widely known that you should read
Hemingway’s works between lines. For me it’s quite hard sometimes to get the
real, detailed meaning though the gist is generally quite clear. My
acquaintance with Hemingway’s stories began with Indian Camp, and after reading
other short stories by this author, I still admit this was the most slashing,
dramatic and profound sketch of little Nick’s life. Hemingway tends to leave a
lot of his ideas unsaid, unexpressed, he just vaguely hints at them. The little
boy witnesses the two most considerable events in a human’s life: birth and
death. Anyway, they are described from the point of view of an adult, not a
child, ant this is a kingpin to the story. We see the events through the
perspective of years; we are to predict how it will manifest itself on the
boy’s character. Being small and protected, Nick feels his life will never end.
Here we come across an eloquent symbol – a circle in the water, a
representation of the line that has no end and no beginning. This is how little
Nick perceives life. The air is chill, but the water warms up Nick’s hand and
he knows nothing bad will ever happen. Even when asking questions, he is firm
in his belief that such awful things won’t happen to him.
Hemingway tries to make us view our life from
various angles, to bring us to the point that we are mortal but the life
cognition is eternal.
(by MissJane)
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